Hi all. Here are some responses to the question of brine being spread on dirt roads. If you have any further info on this topic from DEP, DCNR or PennDOT please get in touch with the PA forest Coalition. They are the ones providing this info in this form. There is contact info fro Dick Martin of the PA Forest Coalition at the bottom of this post.
July 8, 2010 – Reference to a 2005 news report:
- Is brine still being spread on dirt roads in Pennsylvania?
- Are there restrictions, now that the brine could be from Marcellus drilling (with the fracking chemicals included in the flowback water).
2 ] Initial responses
- Brine water is being applied to control dust on dirt road in PA.
- The permit is limited to shallow gas well wastewater
- Wastewater from deep Marcellus wells that are horizontally drilled is NOT permitted to be road –applied. JimApparently, road application of gas drilling wastewater is:
- Limited to certain waste fluids for rural
dust control and winter maintenance
- DEP approval required
Chemical analysis of brine
Limited application rates and frequency (monthly)
- Other factors
location of water bodies (150’),
road gradient (<10%)
3 ] From Center for Dirt and Gravel Road Studies
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Brine on dirt roads
The 2005 article exposes truths.
The ESM training for the Dirt and Gravel Road Program discusses brines in the Stabilization module, and these issues are included in that discussion. However, the animal is bigger than we have influence over.
The Program will not fund any project that includes the use of
Marcellus flow-back, however, has not received DEP approval for road dust control, due in large part to the chemical concoction that goes down-hole, as well as the heavy metals and the NORM.
Overall, not a good situation, but this is PA.
Field Operations Specialist
Larson Transportation Institute
Center for Dirt and Gravel Road Studies
201 Transportation Research Building
University Park, PA 16802
4 ] From DCNR
|Subject:||RE: Brine on BOF Roads|
|Date:||7/20/2010 9:17:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time|
Hello Mr. Martin,
The Bureau of Forestry does not permit the use of brine on BOF roads.
5 ] Questions remain
If you see a truck spreading what appears to be brine on a dirt road,
- how can you tell if it is legal brine or residual waste from the
- What should a Waterdog do?
- Why shouldn’t trucks hauling Marcellus residual waste be properly
labeled with the appropriate hazardous materials placard(s)?
- Have the Waterdogs called for such requirements?
- Have the Waterdogs written any officials asking for any changes to gas production regulations? John Kesich
. . . So it appears that there are some regulations in place, via DEP, DCNR, PennDOT or municipalities.
One Biologist is planning a research project in Sproul State Forest, Clinton County. Soil will be tested where water trucks have been seen spraying fluids on Forestry roads.
It would be good if that research were replicated wherever Marcellus wells are located. Any takers?
Dick Martin Coordinator www.PaForestCoalition.org
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